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| Joshua Sevalis Diglot Newbie Joined 4235 days ago 5 posts - 5 votes Speaks: English, French | Hi guys, Myself and a few other people on the Michel Thomas forum were putting together a transcript for the Michel Thomas French Vocabulary Course but the publishers have since closed the entire forum. It would be good therefore to finish the transcript here. Here are the instructions we were working to in the other forum: Those interested can volunteer to transcribe a track and then post it here. Once these are posted, other fans can check the spelling, grammar etc and can correct these initial versions if necessary. Gradually, we will get a complete and accurate transcript of the vocabulary course. If you want to help, state here which track from the French Vocabulary Course you're going to transcribe and then get to work on it. Post your completed transcription of the track here when it's done. As more are completed, we will start knitting them together to make a standard Michel Thomas review booklet. Here is what we've done so far, feel free to check it and please, let's get people signing up to do the next track, so that we can get a whole booklet done! CD 1 - Lesson 1 As an English speaker, you already know thousands of French words that are just waiting for you to transformer them from English into French. As Michel Thomas said, French is not really an alien language; 60% of English words are of French origin. These familiar (often everyday) words share similar roots in Greek and Latin. Consider them your best friends as you build your vocabulaire in French. And while they can sometimes be false friends when their meaning is not always the same in French, you can count on them over 90% of the time. That's a real head-start. In this segment, we'll introduce more than a dozen ways to boost your French using these handy little changes. And once you master these simple transformations, you'll be able to create many hundreds more French words on your own. Michel Thomas already taught you many of these useful transformations, which he wanted you to use to help you inventer your very own French vocabulaire. We'll review these, and learn some more. Yes, a lot of the vocabulary in French and English is very close, so much so that some people joke that French is mispronounced English and vice versa. So, we'll help you with the prononciation of these words, which are largely shared between French and English -just as Michel Thomas did from the very beginning of the first course. If you ever saw the film called The Pink Panther - La Panthère rose, practise these transformations with your best Inspector Clouseau accent, and you will quickly become really fluent and credible. Let's begin. Right at the start of his courses, Michel Thomas explained how English words ending in -ible and -able are usually the same words in French except for their pronunciation. Using this handy tool, the English “possible” becomes possible in French, with the stress firmly placed on that ending. So how do you say “impossible” in French? Impossible. So what would “visible” be? Visible. Terrible? Terrible. Incomprehensible? Incompréhensible. “I find the situation incomprehensible”? (I find is je trouve, and situation is la situation, again with the stress on the end of the word.) Je trouve la situation incompréhensible. To say “this” before a noun, you use “ce” for masculine nouns. For example, un dîner “a dinner”, ce dîner “this dinner”. So if “a professor” is un professeur, “this professor” would be? Ce professeur. “This professor is very accessible”. (“Very” is très. Can you now use your instinct to produce this sentence?) Ce professeur est très accessible. With femine words such as “situation” and “opinion”, you use cette. This situation. Cette situation. I find this situation incomprehensible. Je trouve cette situation incompréhensible. To say “this” with a masculine word beginning with a vowel, you use cet. So, if “a hotel” is un hôtel, “this hotel” would be? Cet hôtel. (In French you do not pronounce the h and the first sound you hear is o.) If you didn't like the hotel, how would you say: This hotel is terrible. Cet hôtel est terrible. (Stress on the end of hôtel and -ible.) To say “these”, you use ces. “A method” is une méthode. “These methods”. Ces méthodes. “These methods are horrible”. Ces méthodes sont horribles. As Michel Thomas taught you, to say that you are going to do something, you use aller, followed by the “to” form of the verb. So “they are going to eat” will be ils vont manger. “To understand” is comprendre, so: “They are going to understand the situation”. Ils vont comprendre la situation. “The results” is les résultats and the French for the verb “to be” is être. “These results are going to be terrible”. Ces résultats vont être terribles. “I find this situation incomprehensible, and the results are going to be terrible”. Je trouve cette situation incompréhensible, et les résultats vont être terribles. We're getting quite sophisticated here. If you feel you need to be reminded of any of these constructions, do go back to the Michel Thomas courses. “It is impossible for me to leave”. (Start with c'est for “it is”, “to leave” is partir, and “for me” is pour moi. If you use words like “possible” or “impossible”, you add de after them.) “It is impossible for me to leave”. C'est impossible pour moi de partir. “Tomorrow” is demain. “It is impossible for me to leave tomorrow.” C'est impossble pour moi de partir demain. “Because of” is à cause de. “Because of this terrible situation, it is impossible for me to leave tomorrow”. (Don't forget that “terrible” has got to come after the noun “situation”. As you remember from your Michel Thomas course, a noun is a word that you can put “the” in front of.) A cause de cette situation terrible, c'est impossible pour moi de partir demain. What do you think “permissible” is? Permissible. “It is permissible, but it is not recommended”. (Remember that for “not”, you use ne and pas on each side of the verb. “To recommend” is recommander. To say “recommended” you dive into the é form, which would be recommandé.) C'est permissible, mais ce n'est pas recommandé. To finish with a pair that is slightly less close, but still very friendly... “Extendible” is extensible. Remembering that “vocabulary” is not just vocabulaire, but le vocabulaire, and “French” is français, try: “French vocabulary is extendible”. Le vocabulaire français est extensible. “Thanks to” is grâce à, and “my” is mon for masculine nouns, so have one more go at these -ible friends. “Thanks to these transformations, my French vocabulary is extendible”. Grâce à ces transformations, mon vocabulaire français est extensible. Congratulations! You've made a great start in extending your vocabulaire français. CD 1 Lesson 2 (Track 3) Adjectives Ending in -able. See how easy it can be? Let's move on now to another set of really friendly transformations, the -able words which become -able in French. Again, the stress is on the last part of the word. We'll practice some to help you unlock French words that you already know, and encourage you to build you vocabulaire on your own. OK. How would you say “probable” in French? Probable. And “improbable”? Improbable. [Describes Im- sound] What about “acceptable”? Acceptable. (You must hit the last part of the word.) Try “approachable”. Approchable. (You can see how really productive this is.) One more example: What would the French for “applicable” be? Applicable. Try saying: “This solution is applicable, and the results are probable” (“The solution” is la solution.) Cette solution est applicable, et les résultats sont probables. Let's be a bit more ambitious in what we say. Try: “It is not acceptable for me this way, because I want the results now” (Remember what Michel Thomas taught you? You place ne and pas on each side of the verb.) Ce n'est pas acceptable pour moi comme ça, parce que je veux les résultats maintenant. Let's look at another good friend. What do you think “remarkable” could be in French? Remarquable. “The Professor's method is remarkable” (You'll need to change the word order to “the method of the Professor”. As “the Professor” is le professeur, “of the Professor” is du professeur.) La méthode du professeur est remarquable. (Très bien! And so true... True of the Michel Thomas method of teaching languages!) OK, let's try some everyday words. “To inhabit” is habiter. So, can you work out the French for “habitable”? Habitable. Try: “The house is habitable”. (“The house” is la maison.) La maison est habitable. Une chance in French means “a chance”. So elle a une chance means “she has/she stands a chance”. It also means “luck”. So “what luck!” is quelle chance! “What luck! The house is habitable” would be? Quelle chance! La maison est habitable. “To repair” is réparer. Change the -er ending to -able, and “repairable” is? Réparable. “The car” is la voiture, so try: “The professor's car is repairable”. La voiture du professeur est réparable. (Quelle chance!) As you can see, this -able transformation is a very useful one. Une transformation très utile, which you can really rely on. You will come across minor differences, but they are so minor you will still “get that ball over the net”, to quote Michel Thomas. For instance, “responsible” in French is responsable. How would you say then: “She is responsible for customer relations”. (“Customer relations” is relations clients. But be careful. “To be responsible for something” is être responsable DE quelque chose, with de and les coming together to make des [in this case]). Elle est responsable des relations clients. And finally, if “adore” is adorer, “adorable” is bound to be...? Adorable. If “a cat” is un chat, and “your” is votre, go on, try: “Your cat is adorable!” Votre chat est adorable! “A dog” is un chien. So if you are talking to an animal lover, you may want to say: “Your cat and your dog are adorable.” Votre chat et votre chien sont adorables. Chat and chien are masculine, so “both” will be tous les deux, and this literally means “all the two” and it will go after the verb. So now try: “Your cat and your dog are both adorable”. Votre chat et votre chien sont tous les deux adorables. A female cat is une chatte, and a female dog is une chienne. In that case, tous les deux has got to be agreeable -as Michel Thomas says- and becomes toutes les deux. So talking about female animals: “You cat and your dog are both adorable” would be? Votre chatte et votre chienne sont toutes les deux adorables. These transformations are really getting quite remarquables, so let's move on to more of these friendly words, just waiting to get acquainted with you. 1 person has voted this message useful |
| Kugel Senior Member United States Joined 5092 days ago 497 posts - 555 votes Speaks: English* | Sevalis, this idea is great. I'm amazed that the authors of this course would allow the transcripts to transcribed so that everyone can see! If the authors are against this, then I suggest changing the content so as not to break copyright laws. My only suggestion, besides avoiding breaking copyright laws, is to have a computer program challenge the student to write/say the correct response after the prompt. There is a website by a Lithuanian that has an such a thing; and yes, it's designed to revolve around the structure of a MT styled course. Here is the website: http://labs.ikindalikelanguages.com/courses.php For instance, you would type in: ?Your cat and your dog are both adorable And then you would type: Votre chatte et votre chienne sont toutes les deux adorables|Your cat and your dog are both adorable. Basically, to the viewer, he would see the same exact thing you just posted above in regards to the transcript, but there would be embedded windows after each prompt to fill in. And only have typing in the response would one see the correct answer. Of course, one could just opt to see the right answer right away, skipping the challenge altogether, but that would mean one of two things: 1. You already know the answer. And if you know the answer, then why partake in the lesson? 2. You don't know the answer either because of not paying attention or the course is poorly designed. So yeah, I think active participation via embedded windows to which you answer prompts is fairly important in these MT styled courses. Note: I don't think I followed the exact rules of the syntax that Lyzz, the author of the website, used. But it follows a similar idea. As for making these courses...seriously, you don't need to copy word for word from the transcript. It's not like the content was carefully examined using complex permutations and the like. These 'MT authors' don't have special Michel Thomas vision. Just refer to decent grammar manuals and you'll create similar if not better courses. Edited by Kugel on 12 May 2009 at 7:07pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
| Joshua Sevalis Diglot Newbie Joined 4235 days ago 5 posts - 5 votes Speaks: English, French | Thanks for your suggestions, Kugel. If anyone can put it into a program in order to test one's self, that would be great. Regarding transcribing the course word for word - this has to be done, as this is a transcript designed to support people using this course. It needs to be identical. Anyway, anyone willing to do another track? 1 person has voted this message useful |
| Kugel Senior Member United States Joined 5092 days ago 497 posts - 555 votes Speaks: English* | Sevalis, did you ever try transcribing one of these foundation/advanced courses? If you truly understood the material in the hour long CD, then you wouldn't have to worry about transcribing the course word for word. The only danger would be idioms and the like, but asking a native speaker to approve/disapprove each line in the transcript shouldn't be hard. This was the main goal of the MT courses: being able to throw in vocab easily due to the fact that the structure of the language had already been learned. 1 person has voted this message useful |
BEFORE buying - know these facts! Check this Review!
Michel Thomas was one of the world's most famous language teachers when he died in 2005.And for his private sessions he was one of the most expensive, with his website advertising his week long sessions (well five days actually) at the bargain basement price of a mere $30,000 for the training. He built a long list of well heeled celebrity clients and eventually released versions of his courses on audio CD. His star-studded cast included Princess Grace of Monaco! Wow!
The Michel Thomas audio CD's are available in numerous languages and give one some good practical methods to grab the basics of a language and to build confidence in speaking
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a new foreign language.Overall however with their emphasis on being purely audio they are very much one dimensional and while useful for some aspects of language learning, they need to be supplemented with other forms of language tuition. Very easy to make from a manufacturer's viewpoint! No complex multimedia stuff, but great for learning a language in the car, or on your iPods.
I listened to the Michel Thomas French CD Audio Course 1, and rated it as worth having as a part of you language learning stable of tools and can say that it had some very good points.
However I should firstly issue a....
Word of Caution about the Michel Thomas French Audio CD Language Course
Listen to some native speakers
For the Michel Thomas French audio course I do also add a word of caution.Despite Michel studying at the Sorbonne University in Paris, and his ability to speak French, his accent is not a native French accent. And for any French student to adopt as good an accent as possible, one needs to listen to native speakers. One can also watch French speakers (TV, films, videos, etc), and watch and mimic their mouthes, facial expressions and actions when they talk.
It is therefore important to add a component of your learning which includes extensive tracts from native speakers.
According to Wikipedia Mr Thomas was Polish and spent some of his youth in Germany, going to France in his twenties. This comes clearly through in his accent.
Michel Thomas speaks French with a Polish accent (with possibly some German into the mix - but I don't know). Like his strong personality the Polish accent emerges strongly with his French, and his English. So if you want to speak French with a Polish/German accent then mimic Michel Thomas's accent.
It would be like learning English with a Polish/English accent. Would you want this? If a friend of yours was learning English would you get him to practise his/her accent with a teacher with a heavy Polish accent? When most courses out there use native speakers!?
OK, so how do you get around this?
What is somewhat disconcerting is that nowhere on the Michel Thomas French CD, nowhere on the packaging, nowhere in the audio course do his publishers make this clear. Nowhere do the publishers state 'The teacher speaks French but is not a native speaker. . .' or words to that effect. Furthermore, on the course I listened to there was no native speaker to back him up, or to put the students on the right track.
I cannot comment on the accent on the Michel Thomas Spanish course, Michel Thomas Italian, Michel Thomas Portuguese, Michel Thomas German course or the Michael Thomas anything else. [See Addendum below - ed]
I would be interested in any feedback!
But if you are considering one of these courses I would strongly recommend that you get a native speaker to have a listen to somebody else's copy of the course to give him a rating on his accent.
Use his teachings for practical conversation and learning some structure, and some handy hints about conversing in the language, but get a native speaker to teach you how to pronounce words. Do not use his French course as your only learning material.
Addendum: Michel Thomas German course
I got some native German speakers to listen to Michel Thomas's German course and they rate him as a native German speaker. You can therefore use his German lessons in the full confidence of knowing that he has a native German accent.Michel Thomas Language Learning Techniques
The Thomas technique concentrates heavily on cognates, that is using words that are similar in French and in English. This is great for giving students a level of confidence, and some useful tricks.He covers the modal verbs heavily, these being very useful for practical everyday situations. These are the verbs like would, should, could, can etc. Good stuff.
Are the Michel Thomas Language courses good for the serious student?
For the serious student of modern foreign languages however you will need much more than a Michel Thomas language audio CD course to learn a language and become fluent. Perhaps his institute provides more advanced courses.The audio CD courses are great for the basics, but the student that is genuinely interested in becoming fluent needs to spend around 750 to 1,000 hours of study to learn a language according to the experts like the Foreign Service Institute who train the US diplomats in language learning.
From my look at Mr Thomas's French language course 1, his language audio courses available down at your bookstore simply do not provide this level of teaching. (But you have to decide on what level you are aiming at!). Nevertheless his courses are a great starting point.
Be careful of purely audio courses
Being a purely audio method of teaching means that one does not get to see any written text. This is a serious drawback because a person that can read language learning material can learn much more effectively. Reading words and text increases and solidifies the language learning experience immensely and allows the reader to more accurately identify and learn a word or phrase.Something heard is often not quite clear to the listener, whereas if one can listen and read then one has a better learning experience.
If we look at the brain's method of learning we know that the more stimulus and input from the more different senses that we use, the greater are the number of neural pathways that are laid in the brain as each brain cell, neuron connects to loads of other neurons.
So by adding reading, writing, video, animation, acting and other things one is incorporating all the senses that audio courses like Mr Thomas's language courses neglect, and in fact take some pride in scoffing at, you will improve the quality and depth of your learning experience.
Overall the Michel Thomas language courses do have a place in your language learning stable of products, but I do not recommend them as the sole learning methodology. Include a good, qualified language teacher, books, TV, films, DVD, verb drills etc.
And for the best foreign language vocabulary learning and gender recognition techniques use the 200 Words a Day! language learning systems. These are the perfect complement to any language learning course for Spanish, French, German, Italian, Welsh.
Learning a Language with No Memorization? ... as Mr Thomas claims
Mr Thomas claims that his techniques require no memorization, and he makes quite a point of this. Well you can call the process what you like, but you still have to memorize things in some way to get them into your brain.You can call an elephant a donkey if you want, but it is still an elephant. You can call it an aeroplane (... a jumbo maybe...) or can call it a gillywolkawilbydidliackadoondom, but it is also still an elephant.
My point is that you do have to try and remember things. This process is called memorization! Just because the teacher says it requires no memorization does not mean it is so. If you don't remember something you will never learn it! If you have not memorized something it is not in your brain!
But this is of course a great sales pitch from one of the greatest ever sellers of language courses! No memorization!
Overall - a good thing to have in the language learning stable... Just go in with your eyes open.
And here is a reply from a Reader
This reply is from Jared on 05 January 2008.I read your review of Michel Thomas's French. The thick accent is indeed a pitfall, although the Russian, Arabic, and Mandarin courses all use native speakers.
I pretty much agree with everything you've written about Michel Thomas, but I think you failed to mention the strongest area of the program; and for this I will take an excerpt from a language learning forum:
The central underlying secret to Michel Thomas's technique existed in two parts -
1. Firstly, a system for breaking down language into its core essence, and then ...
2. secondly putting it together in a way the students could understand. - Jared
Susan reckons his Italian accent is pretty close ...
September 09, 2010Regarding your comments on Michel Thomas' language learning techniques and accents. I have undertaken the Italian courses and have found Michel's accent to be very close to native Italian - and I can say that with confidence as my father is Italian and I practised what I learnt with him.
The course is aimed at people who want to SPEAK as opposed to read. That is why it does not use diagrams etc. But all the courses have accompanying booklets containing the course contents i.e. the dialogue. So if someone really wants to see how what they are saying is written, it is provided for them.
If you read who they say each course is intended for you will see that they never state it is a substitute for serious academic study. I cannot comment about any other of the languages on offer, but I am much more confident with my Italian and and am now at Year 4 GCSE level having been 'bumped up' from year 1 after doing the Michel Thomas method - and my Italian teacher is a native speaker also. - Susan
Kevin says: That is great to hear. I wonder how he could manage an Italian accent, but not lose the Polish brogue with his English and his French. Amazing given his 'world's greatest language teacher' label.
More on Michel Thomas's Italian accent...
September 10, 2010The reason is simple. Italian phonology is relatively easier than English or French phonology. It is a phonetic language.
I don't speak Italian, and my native language is very distant from European languages, but when I try to read Italian (without understanding of course) native speakers say that I sound like an immigrant who has lived in Italy for more than 40 years. On the other hand, my father is an English language professor, specializing in Phonetics and Phonology, and yet his accent is far from native.
English is very difficult phonetically and phonologically! - Sky Comet
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I'm Polish myself, and after 4 years of intensively learning Spanish I can safely say my accent is much better than his. Even though it's a language similar …
Regarding Michel Thomas' Accent. Not rated yet
You advised against Michel Thomas' accent in his French Program. The accent is a none issue as long as one understands what is being said. Even people …
Michel Thomas Course is great Not rated yet
I have studied many courses. Thomas's is great for any beginner. Living language is also good and inexpensive, buy the course under 20. You can buy virtually …
Michel's accent Not rated yet
I just wanted to say that Michel's accent was nowhere near Polish. I can tell that because I'm Polish. His accent is a mix between american-english and …
Mickey T's accent Not rated yet
I agree with the comment that Michel Thomas' French and Spanish accents leave a lot to be desired. As for this requiring a 'Severe Language Health …
Michel Thomas`s Accent Not rated yet
Hi, I'm English learning Spanish, and while I'm unable to talk about Michel Thomas`s Spanish accent, I can speak about his English accent, which is very …
Regarding your Michel Thomas Review Not rated yet
I think you've focused rather heavily on the fact that he has a foreign accent when speaking English and French, and perhaps not enough on how effective …
How your mind works and Michel Thomas Not rated yet
I haven't tried Michel Thomas's course. I'm conscious that my learning and therefore how my mind is structured is very classical. I'm Italian and I studied …
What sore puss comments Not rated yet
This was obviously written by a teacher who thinks they are the only people who can teach. We have lived in Chile for 15 years and despite working quite …
He ain't all that bad! Not rated yet
I think that one of the advantages of the M. Thomas approach is that he triggers the learner into speaking in a way that other courses ( that I have used …
Love Michel Thomas Not rated yet
I've always wanted to study French, but with working forty hours a week found I couldn't devote enough time to the language. With his course I've been …
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